Will Manly is wrong about small towns.

Will Manly, a reporter for the Hays Daily News and The Stir has a little gem circulating the States via email titled Dear Barack: You’re wrong about small towns. I have reprinted it at the bottom of this article, but first my response.

Will Manly is wrong about small towns.

Mr. Manly may believe he is from a small town, but Hays Kansas prefers to think it’s a city. From their web site: “Hays Kansas is the largest city in Northwest Kansas at the crossroads of Interstate 70 and US Highway 183. This city, which has approximately 20,000 residents, was incorporated in 1885. Hays is a growing city with excellent opportunities.” (emphasis mine)

I live in a town of less than five thousand. I grew up in a town that boasted 1,100 residents. In retrospect I believe that to be a cumulative total. The point is, I know about small towns. Small towns are made of people, real living people, not the caricatures Manly and Obama have painted.

“We don’t vote for Democrats because we’re self-reliant so we don’t like the government trying to “solve” everything for us.” So I guess Plainville didn’t appreciate the government’s help when the Schult Homes announced it was closing earlier this year. Plainville is a small town of roughly 2000 residents 25 miles north of Hays on US183. The one hunderd laid off workers there are scheduled to receive a workers assistance package that includes classes on resume and skill building, tuition reimbursement and help in relocating.

I didn’t find any articles by Mr. Manly denouncing this government hand out.

I doubt Mr. Manly knows the difference between government assistance and government interference. Government assistance is when help is given to American in need. It’s what is being done in Plainville and what wasn’t done in New Orleans. Government interference is typified by the grossly misnamed Patriot Act and warrantless wiretapping.

Mr. Manly starts his article expressing fondness for Barack Obama. Forgive me if I find it a a bit disingenuous to state, “Eloquent, gifted, genuine yes” only to follow with “But dangerously naive at best”. Sounds to me Manlys attitude toward Mr. Obama is much like Clark Griswald’s ‘fondness’ of Cousin Eddie in the National Lampoon Family Vacation movies.

When I read, “But anymore I’m finding it harder and harder to root for you” my first thought was I don’t believe Manly has ever rooted for any democrat, let alone Obama. Even if it was to defeat Hillary Clinton. I don’t doubt the thought of Ms. Clinton as President gives Mr. Manly nightmares, I do doubt he has ever thought of Obama as his salvation.

“Sometimes people say things they don’t really mean.”

Mr. Manly seems to have a penchant for making statements that while on the surface seem reasonable upon closer scrutiny are at best ‘dangerously naive’, at worst conscious efforts to deceive.

Case in point, “Here’s a thought: Maybe gun rights voters know gun control laws kill people and steal freedom.” Gun control laws no more kill people than guns do – people with guns kill people.

Mr. Manly also seems to be confused about freedom and rights. The second amendment to the constitution gives Americans the right to keep and bear arms. Gun control laws limit rights. Now if you believe the government cannot place limits on our rights think again.

The Declaration of Independence states, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”. The government can and does limit liberty and in extreme cases even take a life.

Where is Mr. Manlys’ outcry for the enemy combatants held for years without a trial or even counsel? I would say being imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay is a greater theft of freedom than not being able to own a fully automatic pistol. Both are unconstitutional.

Concerning gun control, unless you define gun control as the ability to hit what you are aiming at I would be against it. It seems to me the fewer laws we have the happier we will all be. I find it curious however that the same folks who would remove all restrictions on gun ownership believe sending someone to prison for smoking marijuana is perfectly acceptable.

“And here’s my favorite thought of all: Maybe small-town folks are – really – capable of thinking. All on our own”.

One of the few statements in the article I can agree with. Like most small town folk I don’t need a politician to do my thinking for me, or some big city wanna be pretending he’s a small town journalist. Especially when their opinions are not that different.

Seems to me neither man really knows small town America.

Both seem to think small town America consists of gun-toting, bible-carrying, guvment-hating yokels. And while there are folks like that most are ordinary people, some own guns, some don’t, some go to church, some don’t, some are the nicest people you will ever meet and some are the meanest. In other words – real people.

People who don’t like being used to sell papers.


Dear Barack: You’re wrong about small towns.

Dear Barack Obama:
I grew to like you over the last year. I’ve always thought of you as dangerously naive at best. Eloquent, gifted, genuine, yes. But dangerously naive at best.
I couldn’t vote for you – but not because of your funny name or your lunatic pastor. I couldn’t vote for you because you say we should raise taxes (even on the rich, who I’m convinced already pay too much), and because you say we should abandon Iraq (which I’m convinced would be surrendering a war we must win), and because you don’t respect the Second Amendment (which I’m convinced should disqualify any politician from any office).
Still, I’ve liked your message of unity and your ability to inspire. And, since your rise I’ve hunted quite frantically, for young conservative leaders with your talent. (To my relief, I found Bobby Jindal.)
And I’ve long said if you beat Hillary Clinton, you will have done your country a tremendous service. But anymore I’m having a harder and harder time rooting for you.
First came your wife’s comment about being proud of America for the first time – conveniently, right after you started winning primaries. Then came your own words about your grandmother who is just a “typical white person” – a racist, or at least someone with racist tendencies. (I’m a “typical white person,” I suppose, and I’m no racist. In fact, little makes me angrier than when it’s insinuated I am.)
Sometimes people say things they don’t really mean. But this is a pattern.
Last week, we heard your comments about small-town America. Someone at a San Francisco fundraiser asked you why it’s so hard for Democrats to win in rural areas. You said:
“You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them…So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them…”

Is that a minority? HEY CLETUS, GET THE GUN! (If only we had a job to go to, some time in the last 25 years…)

Here’s a thought: Maybe gun rights voters know gun control laws kill people and steal freedom.
Here’s a thought: Maybe some of us have moral objections to an immigration system that forces rule-followers to wait decades for legal status, and rewards border-violators with amnesty.
Here’s a thought: Maybe some Americans cling to their church because their pastor is a nice person, because they find love there, because there they have something they can believe in.
Here’s a thought: Maybe, just maybe, us simpletons in small towns find it harder to be bigoted than all o’ y’all cityfolk. Maybe in small towns, where everybody knows your name – and how hard you work, if you pay your taxes, how well you treat your neighbors, how often you volunteer in the community, and whether or not you’re a good parent – people see the content of your character, so they don’t give a hoot about the color of your skin. (But I grew up in a small town where about a third of the population is of a different race than me. What do I know?)
And here’s my favorite thought of all: Maybe small-town folks are – really – capable of thinking. All on our own.
You’re wrong about why small-town Americans don’t vote for Democrats.
We don’t vote for Democrats because we’re self-reliant so we don’t like the government trying to “solve” everything for us. And because you tell your rich friends in San Francisco that we’re dumb. And because, each election, whichever one of you is running for president traipses all over the country telling us you have all the answers, that you’re the one on our side, that you understand and respect our way of life.
But each time, a little bit here and there slips out- and by the end of the campaign, we can tell what you really think about us. And we manage to learn who you really are.
And we see you’re just a horse’s ass.


23 thoughts on “Will Manly is wrong about small towns.”

  1. I believe us ‘big city folks’ understand that residents of small towns are not the rednecks Manly and Obama would like us to think they are.

  2. would believe it a person that does not know what a enemy combatant is, evidently he either slept through history or never had any.anyone caught in a battle zone without uniform is subject to immediate execution as a spy, No if and about, any treatment they recieve is over and above what they are entitled to, in other words they have NO RIGHTS. I am tiered of people looking to the goverment for the answer to all. The only way the goverment can give you anything is , they have to take it from you firs

  3. You make a good point that merely having a right guaranteed by the constitution, does not mean the scope of the right can not be further defined and limited. The classic example of speech not protected by Amendment 1 is shouting “Fire” in a crowded theater. That limitation doesn’t mean we don’t have the freedom of speech. It is a reasonable limitation, conceived for the public good.

    Yes, we have the “right to keep and bear arms”. But people get too wrapped up in the notion that the Bill of Rights ought to be interpreted ‘carte blanche’, with no regard for the circumstances.

    That is naive thinking; there has to be a line drawn limiting the nature of the arms which we have a right to keep and bear. What if you wanted to mount a machine gun to your Jeep? What if you wanted to build a missile silo in your garage? Those examples are obviously over the line, right? The right to keep and bear arms has a reasonable limit, set by the legislature. Defending your life and property doesn’t necessitate owning weapons capable of decimating an incoming platoon or blowing up your neighbor’s house.

    Normal “small town” folk don’t need Uzis to defend their homes. Urban ‘gangstas’ might. So which group does Mr. Manly claim to represent, again?

  4. You guys need to get some foundations. What you want is not a foundation. The news has nothing but murder all over it, nothing but how our government covers up instead of offering up the protection our consitution outlines. Barack Obama and his wife will bring this country right into the ruin we’re on the brink of. But we also know, you idiots’ll probably have your way. And you know what? I hope you do, then you can bitch about him in a few years since you don’t have anything better to do. I have a right to defend myself, and this government NOR YOU are going to help me if I need help, it’s all on me! Barack can’t even make up his mind on his own morals and upbringing, his own take on life. You think I want him affecting the safety of mine? The above are clearly posts from the type of people that the rest of us worry about – the ones who have no grip of reality. Your world won’t always be the way that it is. You must not have ancestors that labored and lived and fought in every war here, who did NOT think as you think now. When you get over your fake foundations, you’ll know it! I’m from Fort Collins, CO – a “CHOICE CITY” full of a bunch of ingrates from coastal states who are ruining our societies with their Democratic CRAP and narcissistic, egotistical, cry, bitch, whine and holler attitudes! Shut up! And let people live without telling them how to do it! That’s the difference. We just let it be what it is, you gotta make the problems! YOU ARE our problems! I agree with EVERY WORD Mr. Manly had to say. When the mother load goes down in this country I can only pray that people such as you are stuck in your cities with the consequences of your own actions and that you pay the penance for the values you think you are so important. The rest of us are tired of paying for and putting up with your utopic/rome-ish me me attitudes and reality denials. You think we’re all redneck idiots? If this country were going through what half the other countries in the world are NOW, we would be fine and thrive. You would be S.O.L. or murdered by one of your neighbors for a lack of available prescription drugs.

  5. I agree with the observation, “Seems to me neither man really knows small town America”. Most Americans are neither left wing crackpots or right wing zealots, we just live our lives the best we can. We believe the government should help when it’s needed and stay the hell out of the way when it’s not.

    And for those who think Democrats use government to interfere in the lives of Americans you haven’t been paying attention for the last 7 years. This Republican adminstration has increased the size of the government to record levels and trampled all over the Bill of Rights.

    I’m tired of the left and right constantly sniping at each other, they keep hitting those of us in the middle. Their insults, much like their ideas, fall well short of the mark.

  6. Will Manly was NOT talking about Hays, Kansas in his article.

    If you did a little research, you would know that.

  7. Where Manly is from is less important than what he says. And I DON’T agree with what he says. Read Manly’s article again – like Obama he is saying small town folk are a bunch of gun loving bible toting ‘simple’ people.

    I would urge the author to write an article about what small town folks really are like.

  8. I have a piece on my blog in response to Will Manly you all might like! Please see blog. Here is an exerpt:

    …”You can have Iraq and Vietnam. A war we must win is what you say Iraq is. What is winning? When do we declare victory? According to the rules that define the “war on terror,” winning will never occur, only inevitable fighting. Again we see you and your parties naive thought process. The facts are you cannot “shoot” an ideology. You cannot destroy what is not tangible. Islam and Christianity have been involved in this type of warfare for thousands of years, and you cannot predict a different outcome when there is no precedence to support it. Terrorism wins. I submit for reference on Pat Buchanan’s book “Where the Right Went Wrong.” The fact is we will exhaust our resources, exhaust our will, and end up like the crusading Christians, marching back home to find our lands gone, our countryside covered by tyrannical “leaders,” and the rich holding the keys to America. Be they rich Obama’s or rich Bushes. We have only suffered one major terrorist attack in over 230 years of history. (Pearl Harbor was not terrorism).
    So because we have been attack free for 7 years, does not mean the current strategy works. You need to wait 223 more years before you prove that theory. What those who are not naive would do is analyze the data in front of them. The economy is hurting with the cost of living, the dollar is plummeting, the rich are richer, the poor are poorer. Rights are being stripped from Americans in the name of freedom. Read your Revolutionary War history. Safety from the terrorizing Indians and evil French was the same argument used by Britain to try to persuade the colonies into accepting their rights be stripped to “finance” the King’s army. Who is benefiting from this war? The military (benefits and pay increase as to the size, already addressed earlier), the federal government (lawmakers, executive office), and the contractors (East India Trading) are those whose interests are most served. Your Republican party is out to grab as much money and power as possible, on the backs of the brave men and women who fight and die. Are you to naive to see it? “

  9. You might want to try proof-reading or using spellchecker. It’s hundred, not hunderd and it’s Barack, not Barrack. You might have a good point or two, but I wouldn’t know because I quit reading after you misspelled the man’s name.

  10. Is there any argument lamer than “you can’t spell”? Besides, it was Will Manly who misspelled Barrack – not the author of this article. It really didn’t take a whole lot of thought to figure that out.

    I agree with the article, I’ll believe what I want to, not what some journalist or politician tell me to.

  11. It would appear that Mr. Manly may have written his own epitaph. Suddenly, he is no longer listed as a writer for the Hays newspaper and a web site he used, The Stir, to spread his misinformation has disappeared.

  12. Give it a break folks. It was only one statement among millions Obama has made. He’s even said he was in error. What do you want? Perfection—from Democrats, of course, but what about Republicans. You let them slide, slippery folks that you are.

  13. I grew up in a small town (Danville, IL) and now live in Chicago. I’ve lived in Dallas, New York and spent nearly a year in Africa. I feel like I’ve lived in enough different places to know a bit about the average person, regardless of city/town size. I’ve also followed politics closely and I’ve come to the conclusion that politicians are politicians no matter the party. They will say whatever they need to say to get elected. McCain drifted back and forth from center to right and back as the poll winds blew. Obama started far left and is drifting to the center for the same reason. Obama, like McCain, will say whatever they need to say to get elected. Doesn’t make him better or worse than any other politician, just the same. The sooner we all realize this the better voters we will be. Look to their voting records as to the type of President they would be. History is your best indicator, not a stump speech or bus tour.

  14. First, anyone quoting National Lampoon’s Vacation to make a political point immediately loses all credibility.

    Second, for “Burt”, Mr. Manly did not get fired from either the paper or The Stir. He joined the US Navy.

  15. This article against Manly’s was so boring, you lost me in second full, self-righteous paragraph. BORING. The Brent comment on Aug. 4th is the most intelligent and realistic way to approach politicians.

  16. Until the political system is greatly changed at the most basic level of local elections at the city level in our national communities; then, and only then will we be on a road to true greatness, as a nation in history. Only by going back to the basics in electing city council individuals and mayors in a “Citizen Server” format, will we see our country become “all it can be.” Note volunteer column on: http://wordsuponmystone.wordpress.com, titled, “But it has always been done that way,” copyright 2008.

  17. Pretty sure just because the GOV’T Helps some people laid off doesn’t mean they help everyone. The government doesn’t know about half the things going on in this country, and like they really care either.

    It is ridiculous to think that someone would rely on the gov’t to help them through everything, because you always have to pay it back. Yet they tax everything we get, EVERYTHING.

    I grew up in a family with 9 children, and my dad was an abusive alcoholic, and was my mom helped out at all financially. Hell no. Don’t preach about Obama knowing or not knowing about small towns. I grew up in a town of about 500 and I know for a fact that no one in this god forsaken country even knows about it let alone knows about the people in it or the things they do.

    I do not belive Barak Obama is the right candidate for our country. If he won’t even support our Pledge of Alligiance, or National Anthem what makes him even worthy of “represtening” our Great Nation? He disagrees with the fundementals that the U.S. was founded on, what kind of person even deserves the title President if he won’t even hold true to the beliefs we’re based on.

    Fankly Barak Obama is full of shit. He Plagarized the movie “American President” in his Acceptance speach. He obviously doesn’t care very mcuh or his speech writers would have made it completely personal and 100% original. He doesn’t and his intetions are to run America to the ground.

    Congratulations for the new America…the NEW COMUNISTIC empire of the WORLD!!

    (Those of you who vote for Obama, just wait you’ll see what you’ve done if he becomes President)

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  19. Will Manly was the worst editor in the history of FHSU’s student newspaper, and he only got the job by default. He almost destroyed the newspaper and when he graduated the university took steps to make sure that the paper could not be abused the way he did. For example, when a professor grabbed a bunch of papers to distribute to his class for discussion, Will devoted an entire edition to what he thought was a theft of his self-absorbed and oh-so-important ramblings. When the truth came out he only described what the professor did, but he never apologized or printed a retraction after he basically called the entire FHSU student body a thief. He should have resigned. Will wrote the most one-sided, unobjective, politically slanted and uninformed editorials in the history of the newspaper and he encouraged others on the paper to do the same. Will Manly is an idiot who learned to type, nothing more.

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